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#Chicago on Monday, May 9, 2011



Links mentioned today:
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/09/report-sony-plans-to-restart-psn-services-fully-by-may-31/
http://i.imgur.com/gQZbs.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SgzTl.png
http://i51.tinypic.com/rkue7a.png
http://www.cardownloan.com/2011/04/how-credit-score-affect-auto-insurance-premium/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42956144#42956144
http://absolutefucker.tumblr.com/post/5293093001
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/five-awesome-features-coming-to-windows-phone-7-mango
http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/emails-suggest-google-microsoft-136089
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f81/graff-malty-slightly-hopped-cider-117117/
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3JjhGF2eKIA/TKddQn_bvjI/AAAAAAAAAUE/uYYUiGXjnpQ/s1600/beer+styles.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/tBPU1.png
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_IXw-xxZ1E
http://beergeno.me/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Periodic_Table_Beer_Styles.png
http://www.beeraday.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/purple_haze1-283x300.jpg
http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/3/7
http://www.ibabuzz.com/bottomsup/files/2008/05/sam-adams-beer-glass1.jpg
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/05/09/overworked-make-a-leap-to-americas-10-least-stressful-jobs/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rO66i9by8U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_mcTOtcxfs&feature=fvwrel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhbZXvVkmg0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZErvASwdlU
http://eveboard.com/pilot/sammargh
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-close-to-buying-skype-for-7-billion-really/9400


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08:27 <Volatile> wow.. no PSN until May 31st
08:44 <sampson> WHAT
08:46 <sampson> i don't see that anywhere vol
08:51 <Volatile> 1 sec.
08:51 <Volatile> http://www.joystiq.com/2011/05/09/report-sony-plans-to-restart-psn-services-fully-by-may-31/
08:52 <@scrim> may 31st!
08:52 <@scrim> hah
08:53 <sampson> i need a new mouse pad
08:53 <sampson> i got a magic mouse or whatever this weekend and the laser tracks like shit on my mouse pad
08:53 <sampson> driving me nuts
08:54 <Volatile> heh
08:54 <Randy> you're not supposed to need a mouse pad with a magic mouse
08:54 <Volatile> i've had the same func pad for a while
08:54 <sampson> it doesn't track on my desk at all
08:54 <Volatile> the rubber grips have all but worn off
08:54 <Volatile> sam, that's not very magical
09:01 <sampson> you're telling me
09:02 <Randy> mine works just fine without a mousepad
09:02 <Randy> is your desk glossy or something?
09:04 <sampson> yes
09:05 <Randy> yah laser mice doesn't like that kinda surface
09:05 <sampson> what's goofy is these two mouse pads that work great with my ir or whatever mouse
09:05 <sampson> laser mouse is like WHOAAAA THERE BUDDY
09:05 <Randy> i had problems with my mighty mouse like that
09:05 <Randy> but not with my magic mouse
09:06 <Randy> i <3 my magic mouse
09:06 <Randy> best mouse ever
09:07 <Volatile> i cant tell the difference between most mice
09:07 <Volatile> the optical ones i mean
09:10 <Randy> the magic mouse's top is a touchpad
09:10 <Randy> it's kinda neat
09:10 <sampson> yeah
09:10 <sampson> so like instead of having an 8 button mice
09:10 <sampson> i can do shit like *tap* the top of the mouse with 2 fingers to refresh, click with 2 fingers to open in new tab, hold left finger down and tap the right for the next tab, opposite for left, pull forward with 2 fingers to close a tab, push away to bring up a new tab
09:11 <Randy> it's great for netsex
09:15 <sampson> here's a pic 4 u http://i.imgur.com/gQZbs.jpg
09:17 <Volatile> haha
09:18 <Randy> how demonic
09:24 <chrism> NO SAM MOER BUTTONS MEANS YOU CAN DO MORE
09:24 <chrism> actually they just confuse me after so many fucking buttons
09:26 <Volatile> that's why you never lead your 50-man raid into upper BRD spire.
09:26 <Volatile> LACK OF BUTTUNS
09:28 <sampson> http://i.imgur.com/SgzTl.png loo
09:29 <Volatile> heh
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10:01 <sampson> this progressive box is fuckin creepy but interesting at the same time http://i51.tinypic.com/rkue7a.png
10:03 <@scrim> i wouldn't mind having one, if only i got the data :)
10:04 <Volatile> you actually installed the monitoring device?
10:04 <sampson> fuck yes i did
10:04 <sampson> if i keep it for 4 more months i have a 30% permanent discount
10:04 <Volatile> how does it transmit the data?
10:05 <sampson> cellular
10:05 <Volatile> wow. it has its own cellular radio?
10:05 <sampson> yeah
10:05 <Volatile> would be interesting to see if you could reverse that box heh
10:05 <sampson> has been done already i believe but meh
10:05 <Volatile> link?
10:05 <sampson> 6 months of driving like an old woman saves me $150 per 6 months
10:06 <Volatile> nm
10:06 <Volatile> found one
10:06 <sampson> tbqh $325 for my insurance would be fantastic
10:06 <sampson> since state farm was charging $675
10:06 <@scrim> i'm assuming you don't drive very much anyway, since you work from home, so that should help too
10:07 <sampson> yes any time we go to the bars or long trips we're using john's car
10:07 <sampson> at first he bitched about it and i explained the ramifications of completing this and he was like FUCK IT YOU CAN DRIVE MY CAR
10:08 <Volatile> heh
10:08 <Volatile> my car insurance is still pretty high
10:08 <Volatile> even though i avg under 10k miles/yr
10:08 <sampson> yeah you also have a sports car moron
10:08 <Volatile> no speeding tickets
10:08 <Volatile> yeah, but i have a clean record
10:08 <Volatile> you'd think they'd gimme some kinda discount by now
10:08 <Volatile> i would think anyway
10:08 <Volatile> heh
10:08 <sampson> as do i my problem was last year was the first time i ever bought car insurance on my own
10:09 <sampson> up until i was 23 i was on the parents and then i had no car so no insurance
10:09 <Volatile> this is my first car insurance
10:09 <sampson> and i also had shit credit
10:09 <sampson> but now i don't so sup
10:09 <Volatile> does credit affect car payments?
10:09 <sampson> yes
10:09 <Volatile> never really considered that
10:09 <Volatile> but it makes sense
10:09 <sampson> when you sign up they do a credit check to gauge risk
10:09 <Volatile> wonder if i can have them adjust my payment now that my credit is good
10:09 <Volatile> my credit wasnt so hot when i got my car
10:09 <sampson> they say it isn't directly affected but it is
10:09 <sampson> worth a shot
10:10 * Volatile adds to endless list of shit to do today
10:10 <sampson> http://www.cardownloan.com/2011/04/how-credit-score-affect-auto-insurance-premium/
10:11 <Randy> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/42956144#42956144
10:11 <Volatile> my flash isn't working
10:11 <Volatile> related to car insurance? :P
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10:43 <SidWork> good morning peeps
10:43 <SidWork> Hopefully everyone had a great weekend..
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11:12 <Volatile> oooh
11:12 <Volatile> Alan Wake 2
11:12 <Volatile> some artist's resume included in his past projects that he did cinematics for Alan Wake 2
11:12 <sampson> more like alan snore
11:19 <Volatile> i liked alan wake a lot
11:19 <Volatile> :\
11:19 <Volatile> simple action combat
11:19 <Volatile> reasonably good story/writing
11:19 <Volatile> the ending was teh fail
11:20 <Volatile> game developers need to get out of the idea that they can pump out DLC fast enough for "episodic" content
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11:23 <mattman> oshi
11:28 <Volatile> hio
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11:45 <sampson> wrap it up, my cat is famous on the internet http://absolutefucker.tumblr.com/post/5293093001
11:46 <@scrim> heh
11:46 <@scrim> so explain tumblr to me
11:46 <@scrim> does it allow anyone to make their own link site?
11:46 <mattman> man
11:46 <mattman> i just want mango
11:46 <mattman> ;(
11:47 <mattman> http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/five-awesome-features-coming-to-windows-phone-7-mango
11:49 <sampson> you'll have to wait another 8 months
11:49 <sampson> because samsung will fuck it all up again
11:49 <mattman> haha
11:49 <mattman> could be
11:49 <mattman> they seem to have lots of troubles with that
11:50 <sampson> i honestly can't think of a single phone samsung has released where upgrades weren't a complete clusterfuck
11:50 <mattman> yeah
11:50 <sampson> their android phones are just as bad
11:54 <Volatile> AMZN introduces MyHabit.com
11:56 <phobosd> HI GUYS
11:56 <Volatile> hay
12:01 <mattman> heh http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/paul-thurrotts-wininfo/emails-suggest-google-microsoft-136089
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13:08 <m1k[3y]> fucking.microsoft.windows
13:16 <phobosd> penis's and vagina's
13:17 <m1k[3y]> that is what makes up windows
13:19 <mattman> BALLZ!!!!
13:22 <Volatile> THUNDERSTORMS PRODUCING HALF INCH HAIL AND WINDS GUSTING TO 45 MPH WILL CONTINUE
13:22 <Volatile> doh
13:34 <phobosd> the beatings will continue
13:34 <phobosd> until moral improves
13:36 <sampson> yeah wind out here has been terribad for the last few days
13:36 <sampson> what was once on my desk this morning is now littered across the office
13:36 <mattman> smokin WEEEDD BRROSS!!!!
13:37 <sampson> yeah right liar
14:02 <chrism> haha i'll trade you that for super mega draught
14:02 <chrism> it hasn't rained in like... months now
14:02 <Volatile> my land line was clicking a lot earlier
14:03 <Volatile> tons of wind
14:03 <Volatile> scary evil clouds loom in the sky!
14:03 <chrism> i almost caught the yard on fire lighting the bbq yesterday, it's like a massive tenderbox =\
14:03 <phobosd> lol
14:03 <mattman> google IO tomorrow you guys
14:04 <mattman> big android announcements!?!?
14:04 <Volatile> they're selling their android division to msft
14:04 <chrism> lololol
14:04 <phobosd> sounds about right
14:05 <chrism> "we just wanted to prove we could"
14:05 <Volatile> heh
14:05 <Volatile> mango is just an android skin, mattman
14:05 <chrism> oh, so phobosd i fucked that cider recipe up like woah
14:05 <mattman> hell yeah bro!
14:05 <chrism> it called for 1 oz. of wheat
14:06 <chrism> i accidentally added a pound
14:06 <Volatile> haha
14:06 <chrism> totl "fucking woops" moment
14:06 <chrism> i scraped MOST of it out
14:06 <Volatile> i accidentally the whole pound
14:06 <chrism> but i bet it stll added like 1/4 pound of torrified wheat
14:06 <chrism> i said fuckit and brewed it anyway
14:06 <chrism> lol
14:06 <sampson> it will have a nice earthy taste
14:06 <sampson> think wheaties cider
14:06 <chrism> haha
14:07 <chrism> i'm *really* curious to see how it comes out
14:07 <chrism> it's in my fermentation chamber now, rocking out to a steady 62*F
14:07 <phobosd> chrism: oh snap :(
14:07 <phobosd> you doing all-grain?
14:08 <chrism> nah this was that Graff recipe
14:08 <chrism> hldup
14:08 <phobosd> ohh right
14:08 <chrism> http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f81/graff-malty-slightly-hopped-cider-117117/
14:08 <phobosd> it's cool, i may have fucked my heff up last night
14:08 <chrism> haha oh yeah?
14:08 <phobosd> i added .5g too much water
14:08 <phobosd> and it took me almost 1.5 hours to cool it down
14:08 <phobosd> BUT
14:08 <phobosd> it was covered the entire time
14:08 <chrism> aah that'd be fine
14:08 <phobosd> so not sure if that's a big deal or not
14:08 <phobosd> but the extra water is going to hurt ABV :-/
14:08 <chrism> what was the FG reading after cooling it?
14:08 <chrism> er OG
14:08 <phobosd> OG was still 40
14:09 <chrism> oh fuckit
14:09 <chrism> you're good thing
14:09 <phobosd> which is abuot right?
14:09 <chrism> er then
14:09 <chrism> yeah
14:09 <phobosd> the wort was really ...watery though
14:09 <phobosd> bitter
14:09 <chrism> did they give you a specific OG to hit?
14:09 <phobosd> kinda sweet
14:09 <phobosd> but nothing like dat tripel
14:09 <chrism> oh yeah welcome to all other beers
14:09 <chrism> lol
14:09 <phobosd> i dont think so, the recipe didnt say anything
14:09 <chrism> hrm, that's kind of a shiesty rcipe
14:09 <chrism> er recipe
14:09 <chrism> that's a pretty ky component
14:09 <chrism> now, fwiw, most british pale ales start around 1.040
14:10 <phobosd> ah :shrug:
14:10 <chrism> so worse case is that it'll be a thinner beer
14:10 <chrism> bfd
14:10 <chrism> it'll still be goddamned delicious
14:10 <phobosd> i finally figured out my cooling wort procedure though
14:10 <chrism> oh yeah?
14:10 <phobosd> 2 gallons of distilled water in fridge, put in freezer when cooking
14:10 <phobosd> it starts to freeze a bit
14:10 <phobosd> pour both in to chill
14:10 <phobosd> it DROP{S like a mofo
14:10 <phobosd> to ...~90
14:10 <chrism> haha i bet
14:10 <phobosd> then ice water bath in that sink in the basement
14:10 <phobosd> for the rest
14:10 <phobosd> before i just did ice
14:11 <phobosd> then iwas like DERP :turns on faucet:
14:11 <phobosd> ------------------------> 75
14:11 <phobosd> in no time
14:11 <phobosd> :facepalm:
14:11 <chrism> hah
14:11 <chrism> werd werd
14:11 <chrism> yta know, i found a summer beer I REALLY liked
14:11 <chrism> it's that Abita, Purple Haze
14:11 <phobosd> so this sunday, i transfer tripel to secondary, and bottle dat wheat
14:11 <chrism> it's like a raspberry pils
14:11 <phobosd> gonna be a busy sunday
14:11 <chrism> oooh nice
14:11 <phobosd> orrly?
14:12 <phobosd> don't you ferment pils like alager?
14:12 <phobosd> in the cold?
14:12 <chrism> yeah it's like super light and pretty refreshing
14:12 <chrism> yeah
14:12 <chrism> i mean i can't do one yet
14:12 <phobosd> dope
14:12 <chrism> fwiw
14:12 <chrism> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3JjhGF2eKIA/TKddQn_bvjI/AAAAAAAAAUE/uYYUiGXjnpQ/s1600/beer+styles.jpg
14:12 <phobosd> i really really wanna do a fruit infused beer :(
14:12 <chrism> is a solid reference
14:12 <phobosd> oh wow
14:12 <chrism> i'm thinking about buying the poster
14:12 <chrism> lol
14:13 <chrism> lol schwarz beer
14:13 <chrism> MAY THE SCHWARZ BE WITH YOU
14:13 <phobosd> you see dat trappist
14:14 <phobosd> http://i.imgur.com/tBPU1.png
14:14 <chrism> hahahah
14:14 <chrism> awesome
14:14 <chrism> ya know, I'd love to get into naming/labeling my beers
14:14 <chrism> but it's a pure PITA
14:14 <chrism> at least when bottling
14:15 <chrism> cause you gotta pull the labels and that's a bitch
14:15 <phobosd> i was thinking about what i was going to name my tripel last night
14:15 <chrism> but when kegging, i'd probably do that
14:15 <phobosd> the only thing i could come up with was 'nipple tripel'
14:15 <phobosd> :|
14:15 <chrism> haha
14:15 <chrism> aight i've gotta bounce for a few, gotta do some shizzle shortly
14:15 <chrism> brb
14:15 <phobosd> ltz
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14:35 <drosemvp> sup bros
14:35 <mattman> supb ros
14:35 <drosemvp> anyone from hyde park
14:35 <mattman> dude can someone PLEASE teach me how to dougie?!
14:44 <@scrim> justin beiber will
14:45 <@scrim> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_IXw-xxZ1E
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15:18 <kubi> hate it when my windows is red because someone said my name but history isn't long enough to find it :/
15:30 <mattman> :(
15:45 <phobosd> i bet mattman's mIRC scrollback is infinity
15:45 <mattman> even bigger
15:46 <@scrim> 2011-05-06_10:09:07<Volatile> kubi's department
15:46 <@scrim> just enable logging ;)
15:55 <Volatile> int huge:1 = ++infinity;
16:06 <chrism> wow, you code in vb too?
16:08 <Volatile> pretty much just ruby
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16:23 <Orb> Or just go to my log.
16:23 <Orb> oh wait, I killed that.
16:44 <chrism> http://beergeno.me/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Periodic_Table_Beer_Styles.png
16:44 <chrism> cool
16:44 <chrism> that would actually be a baller poster
16:44 <chrism> OG/FG/ABV/IBU and SRM
16:45 <chrism> whichi is pmuch everything ou need to know about a style (from a broad overview)
16:45 <phobosd> wtf no heff?
16:45 <phobosd> WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THAT
16:46 <chrism> Weizenbier
16:46 <chrism> wheat beer
16:46 <phobosd> derp
16:46 <chrism> then american and beligan wheat
16:46 <phobosd> sweet my OG is on point then
16:46 <chrism> actually all along the left are wheat variants of some sort
16:46 <chrism> lol nice
16:46 <chrism> yeah hefe just translates to "yeast"
16:46 <chrism> so a hefeweizen is just a wheat beer that isn't filtered and still has the yeasties in thar
16:47 <phobosd> butbutbut
16:47 <phobosd> imma transfer to bottle bucket and leave a lot of it in the primary
16:47 <phobosd> o.0
16:48 <phobosd> or do i like shake it up first lol
16:48 <chrism> oh no def. filter as much as you can
16:48 <chrism> like even if it looks clean on trasnfer, you'll build up yeast in the bottom of the bottles weather you want it or not
16:48 <chrism> like those Andy Kings
16:48 <phobosd> o ok
16:48 <chrism> the diff is you do the swirl at the end to put the yeast in the glass and not try to pour off of it
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16:53 <phobosd> how much are bottles anyway?
16:53 <phobosd> i'm thinking about doing bigger bottles, like the andy king
16:53 <phobosd> so i dont have to fill as much ...and i like big beers
16:54 <phobosd> cuz 1 beer for me is never enough
16:54 <phobosd> i dont need exact price, just wondering if they're OH MY GOD expensive
16:54 <phobosd> guess i could use the fucking internet couldn't i
16:54 <chrism> they're about the same
16:55 <chrism> I got like a case of 12 oz's and a case of deuce deuces
16:55 <chrism> each about 14 bucks I think?
16:55 <phobosd> case = 24?
16:55 <Volatile> chrism
16:55 <Volatile> in beer world, how does sopporo rate?
16:55 <Volatile> like lower mid-grade?
16:55 <chrism> i dunno, it's a decent lager
16:55 <chrism> i don't really get into ranking them ya know?
16:55 <Volatile> if i asked you about bud, you'd tell me it was low-grade tho
16:55 <Volatile> heh
16:55 <chrism> i don't think it's treated as fairly as an equivelament american brew because it's imported
16:55 <Volatile> or shit-grade
16:56 <chrism> oh nah
16:56 <Volatile> okee
16:56 <chrism> it's a decent beer
16:56 <Volatile> budweiser?
16:56 <chrism> like i'm not pissed about getting one at a sushi house
16:56 <chrism> no saporro
16:56 <Volatile> ah
16:56 <Volatile> yeah.. i think i prefer asahi
16:56 <Volatile> but i ended up with a sapporo
16:57 <Volatile> i have a big bottle sittin' in the fridge for later
16:57 <Volatile> :D
16:57 <chrism> haha
16:57 <chrism> nice
16:57 <chrism> yeah nothing wrong with it at al
16:57 <chrism> it's very indicative of the japanese lagering style
16:58 <Volatile> coo
16:59 <Volatile> was mostly just curious
16:59 <Volatile> cuz i think it tastes rather good
16:59 <chrism> ya know at the end of the day, that's the most important thing
16:59 <chrism> if you think bud tastes good, then to you, it's a good beer, ya know?
16:59 <chrism> like I may talk a bit of shit on the bud/miller/etc, but if you like it, you like it
17:00 <chrism> not every beer needs to be a stupidly hopped DIPA
17:00 <chrism> i'm actually making a conscious decision now to stop buying IPAs and start looking into other kinds of beer
17:00 <chrism> i mean i think i've personally beat that horse to death now, and I love the fuck out of 'em
17:00 <chrism> but there's so much other stuff to try
17:01 <Volatile> im not a big fan of heavy IPAs
17:01 <Volatile> hops are not my favorite flavor heh
17:01 <chrism> like i just found this yesterday
17:01 <chrism> http://www.beeraday.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/purple_haze1-283x300.jpg
17:01 <chrism> and it is FUCKING DELICIOUS
17:01 <chrism> it may be one of the best summer beers ever
17:01 <chrism> super light/refreshing
17:01 <chrism> hint of raspberry
17:01 <chrism> etc
17:02 <chrism> if I recall it's a raspberry pils
17:02 <Volatile> nice
17:02 <phobosd> hrm damn that does look good
17:02 <phobosd> http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/3/7
17:03 <phobosd> ba is kinda ~~~ sometimes
17:03 <phobosd> but gives you a general idea of a beer i guess
17:03 <chrism> yeah, everyone hs a hardon for small batch shit, IPAs and Tripels
17:03 <chrism> anything else is CRAP
17:03 <chrism> lol
17:03 <chrism> I snagged an Abita 12 pack sampler yesterday and that was in it
17:04 <chrism> an I really like it. I dont' know that I'd pickup a sixer and slam it or anything, but maybe on a hot day?
17:04 <Volatile> when i was moving to nevada, stayed over night in colorado springs i think... wanted to play some pool, and ended up finding this micro brewery/pool hall
17:04 <chrism> :shrug:
17:04 <chrism> They also have aa Turbodog that's like newcastle++++
17:04 <Volatile> had the best beer ive ever had
17:04 <chrism> oh yeah, Colorado is like epic for beer
17:04 <Volatile> it was called 'bear berry'. from the name i didn't think i'd like it. but it was *awesome*
17:04 <Volatile> bought a couple six packs for when i got into nevada.
17:04 <chrism> hah nice
17:04 <Volatile> ended up gushing at the brewmaster all night
17:05 <chrism> haha
17:05 <chrism> ncie
17:05 <chrism> and this is why i dislike bA
17:05 <chrism> Reviews
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17:05 <chrism> GarthDanielson ( Cocoa, Florida )
17:05 <chrism> C+ / 3.03 rDev -4%
17:05 <chrism> look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3
17:05 <chrism> Poured from a bottle into a pint glass, the beer is a hazy, blood tinged gold that is almost opaque. The pour starts out with a huge, robust, three inch foamy white head that settles quickly into a thin film. Initial aromas are very similar to a framboise lambic, with very tart and sugary raspberry smells, but they are balanced with wheat aromas, as well, with some toasted cereal characteristics cutting the sweet towards the end. Smell is a bit strong, and a tad so
17:05 <chrism> er
17:05 <chrism> Pours a hazy pale yellow, with a white head. In the aroma, wheat like notes and kind of like asiago cheese. In the taste, dry wheat notes and a small fruit note. A small bite and a lighter bodied mouthfeel, with a dry wheat and small hint of fruit in the aftertaste. Kind of icky with a bad aroma, and really lacking in fruit presence.
17:05 <chrism> that
17:05 <chrism> that screams "beer snob douchebag that has no fucking idea what he's talking about"
17:06 <chrism> you get a ton of that shit on there
17:06 <Volatile> haha
17:06 <chrism> that reminds me, time to go check on my cider
17:06 <chrism> i hope it's starter fermenting
17:07 <chrism> damnit
17:07 <chrism> lol
17:07 <chrism> my fucking wheat cider
17:07 <Volatile> that seems kinda like wine tasting
17:07 <chrism> lololol
17:07 <Volatile> when i first started getting into wine, i thought i just wasn't experienced enough to taste what they were tasting
17:07 <Volatile> ..it turns out, i just wasn't experienced enough to know that everyone tastes everything differently, and you hafta learn to judge what you think it will taste like based on what others often say
17:07 <Volatile> (at least for me)
17:40 <mattman> so now that you know all that, when did you become experienced enough to find out how gay that is
17:41 <chrism> Volatile: exactly, that is just how it is
17:41 <chrism> like with beers there's some common denominators
17:41 <chrism> like certain hops *do* smell citrusy, and some *do* smell kind of piney
17:42 <Volatile> yeah
17:42 <chrism> but that's because they share common compounds with citrus and trees at certain aromatic levels
17:42 <chrism> but people saying they taste asiago, shut the fuck up
17:42 <Volatile> but when someone tells me they taste a hint of 'cocoa', it's pretty much their own palette
17:42 <chrism> haha yeah, in wine for sure
17:42 <chrism> beer, may actually have a bit of cocoa
17:42 <Volatile> during a tasting, people call out all kinds of weird flavors, and then 4 out of 5 people will suddenly taste it
17:42 <chrism> but to hear someone say that out of a clear pils, fuck no
17:42 <Volatile> 'OHHH YEAH'
17:42 <chrism> haha yeah
17:43 <chrism> cause there's an "almost" flavor in a lot of that stuff
17:43 <chrism> one you can't QUITE put your finger on
17:43 <Volatile> 'theres a hint of black currant with a fig-like note'
17:43 <chrism> and as soon as somone comes close you label it
17:43 <Volatile> 'OHHH YEAAAH'
17:43 <chrism> it's like music, when you're with a group of people that hear a song, and no ones sure of what it is
17:43 <chrism> then someone throws out a wrong answer that 'fits' sorta, and everyone goes OH YEAH I REMEMBER THIS
17:43 <Volatile> heh
17:43 <chrism> then you find out 2 hours later it was something else altogether
17:44 <Volatile> mattman, gay like a fox.
17:50 <chrism> I <3 the shit out of my sam adams beer glasses
17:50 <chrism> seriously
17:50 <chrism> i hate soundilng like a douche, but I really do pickup more scents from the beer than I do in normal pint glasses
17:50 <chrism> =\
17:50 <phobosd> douche
17:50 <chrism> like i can peg out specific malt types now
17:50 <chrism> fu hippy
17:50 <phobosd> k
17:51 <chrism> i did a rough guess on a grain bill for fat tire based on smell
17:51 <chrism> and I was REALLY close
17:51 <Volatile> chrism, have you tried a blind test to see if it's just in your head? heh
17:51 <chrism> but yeah, <3 and respect to these things
17:51 <chrism> not quite yet
17:51 <chrism> btu it'd be hard to do that, shape of the glass and whatnot
17:51 <chrism> it's a tried and true form factor though
17:51 <Volatile> have j move a glass in front of you
17:51 <Volatile> heh
17:52 <chrism> it's a spin on the tulip style of glass
17:52 <phobosd> hrm i may have to get one of dem
17:52 <chrism> which is like centuries old because it specifically allows a better smell
17:52 <Volatile> yeah?
17:52 <chrism> that's why whine glasses are shaped the way they are
17:52 <Volatile> stop whining.
17:52 <phobosd> http://www.ibabuzz.com/bottomsup/files/2008/05/sam-adams-beer-glass1.jpg
17:52 <chrism> LOLOLOL
17:52 <Volatile> ..but yeah, i prefer larger port glasses
17:52 <Volatile> for any red wine
17:53 <Volatile> i pretty much always drink red wine from a port glass
17:53 <chrism> yeah, the incorporate a few things from random glasses... like the laser etching in the bottom is used a lot in british pint glasses to promote better head
17:53 <chrism> (lol)
17:53 <Volatile> heh
17:53 <Volatile> i've heard of that
17:53 <chrism> i saw a lot of those in the UK where the company logo was etched into the bottom of the glass
17:53 <chrism> serves as a nucleation point for Co2
17:53 <phobosd> lasers == better head
17:53 <phobosd> noted
17:53 <chrism> haha
17:53 <chrism> alwasy
17:53 <chrism> er always
17:54 <chrism> so here's the thing, they're like 5 bucks a pop
17:54 <chrism> nothing stupidly expensive or whatever
17:54 <Volatile> adds more sites for the bubbles to form
17:54 <chrism> I'd probably pay roughly that for normal pint glasses (that I didn't steal)
17:54 <Volatile> yeah.. nucleation site
17:54 <Volatile> sounds about right :P
17:54 <mattman> our automated builds are running for over 10 mins these days. Need to revisit why that is, someday
17:54 <Volatile> wow
17:54 <Volatile> that's a big software package for a phone
17:54 <chrism> 10 mins for a build, that's... cute
17:54 <chrism> =P
17:54 <mattman> i dont do phone software at work
17:55 <Volatile> ohz
17:55 <chrism> cPanel is like.... fuck, 2-3 hours for a build
17:55 <Volatile> do you guys compile your scripts?
17:55 <chrism> yeah
17:55 <Volatile> precompile
17:55 <chrism> some of them
17:55 <Volatile> ah
17:55 <chrism> it takes awhile
17:55 <Volatile> to hinder reversing, or just for execution efficiency?
17:55 <chrism> and lord help us if someone does a 'make clean'
17:55 <chrism> both
17:55 <Volatile> heh
17:57 <chrism> shit
17:57 <chrism> do i need xbox gold for netflix to work?
17:57 <mattman> yes
17:57 <chrism> that's some horseshit
17:57 <chrism> =\
17:57 <mattman> you also need kinect!
17:57 <chrism> yeah that I doubt
17:57 <mattman> to change movies with arms, and stuff
17:57 <chrism> aah
17:57 <chrism> =P
17:58 <chrism> I'd do it on the ps3 but then I'd need to update the firmware
17:58 <mattman> a few weeks ago an episode of spartacus caused it to pause
17:58 <chrism> and that shit is not happening
17:58 <mattman> they said something in greek simlar enough to xbox pause
17:58 <mattman> and i activated the kinect
17:58 <chrism> haha
17:58 <chrism> nic
17:58 <mattman> sucked :(
17:58 <chrism> fuckin hell, is it worth it to do a year of xbl strictly for netflix?
17:58 <chrism> =\
17:59 <chrism> maybe
17:59 <chrism> heh
18:00 <mattman> and hulu plus
18:00 <mattman> im gonna try hulu plus
18:00 <mattman> and try to live without cable for 1 week
18:00 <mattman> if i make it, im cancelling cable
18:00 <chrism> we've been w/o cable for like a few months now
18:00 <mattman> do you have an antenna for the local shit?
18:00 <chrism> like the biggest thing is that you lose the ability to turn it on and have random background noise
18:00 <chrism> nah
18:00 <chrism> don't really watch local shit
18:00 <chrism> i'll hear it on the radio in/out of work or whatever
18:01 <mattman> lols
18:01 <mattman> http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/05/09/overworked-make-a-leap-to-americas-10-least-stressful-jobs/
18:01 <mattman> software engineer and computer progress 3 and 4 LEAST stressful jobs :)
18:01 <mattman> progress, lol....
18:01 <mattman> programmer, heh
18:02 <chrism> haha
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18:06 <mattman> people will read that and then a whole new brand of lazy people will come ruin our profession
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18:09 <chrism> so i was like "fuckit I'll do the xbl shit month to monthand try it"
18:09 <chrism> yeah the MS sites regex on CC #'s is fucked up
18:09 <chrism> i can't add a new card
18:09 <chrism> lulz
18:10 <chrism> yeah it wont' save
18:10 <chrism> "Please enter a valid #"
18:11 <chrism> oh yeah let me try a non-chrome browser
18:11 <chrism> ugh
18:11 <chrism> i bet it's some horseshit like that
18:13 <chrism> hah nope, not in firefox
18:13 <chrism> let me try safari
18:15 <chrism> NOPE
18:16 <chrism> 3 browsers all tell me to enter a valid CC #
18:20 <mattman> thats dumb
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18:29 <sampson> attn phobosd eve was fixt
18:35 <mattman> do you guys ever worry about this NFC payment craze?
18:35 <mattman> like what if some guy on the street has a NFC payment thingy and just walks by everyones pockets
18:35 <mattman> WHAT IF!
18:35 <@scrim> yes
18:36 <@scrim> that and more has occured to me
18:36 <@scrim> i really need a faraday cage walley
18:36 <@scrim> wallet
18:40 <mattman> i want metal lining in my pockets
18:40 <mattman> what if thats what pockets of the future are like
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18:43 <@scrim> wouldn't be a terrible idea
18:43 <@scrim> they do make pouches and wallets for this very purpose
18:43 <mattman> but the NFC is in my phone!
18:43 <mattman> how would that protect my phone
18:43 <@scrim> ohhh
18:43 <@scrim> i didn't know what nfc was
18:43 <@scrim> assumed rfid credit cards
18:43 <@scrim> ill start over
18:44 <@scrim> What's NFC?
18:44 <mattman> same idea, near field communication, a chip in your phone
18:44 <mattman> you place your phone next to a payment thing at a store like 711 and it bills the account linked to your phone
18:44 <mattman> so your phone is how you pay for stuff, in the FUTURE!
18:45 <phobosd> chrism: thar?
18:45 <mattman> hi andy
18:45 <mattman> wanna go to a bar and visit sam for free beer?
18:45 <mattman> real quicklike
18:45 <mattman> i dont wanna get shmammered
18:45 <phobosd> can't, got some shit to take care of
18:46 <phobosd> otherwise i'd be all over it :(
18:46 <mattman> i see
18:46 <mattman> you mad?
18:46 <phobosd> lol no
18:46 <phobosd> i do think i just burnt up this fucking cart though on my e-cig
18:46 <phobosd> by crouching down and my pocket pushing down the button
18:47 <phobosd> that's pretty annoying
18:47 <mattman> sorry dude
18:47 <chrism> phobosd: ding
18:47 <phobosd> it's cool man, it's not your fault
18:47 <phobosd> chrism: have you ever used an "S" airlock?
18:47 <chrism> fucking netflix is locking up the xbox now
18:47 <chrism> nah they look cheesy to me
18:47 <chrism> i've gone with the standard ones the whole time
18:47 <chrism> i dunno how the S ones work
18:47 <chrism> =\
18:47 <phobosd> hrm aight
18:47 <chrism> prolly just pour sanitizer in the top or whatever?
18:48 <phobosd> yeah it is, but like ...how does it breathe?
18:48 <phobosd> there is water all up in it's way
18:48 <chrism> not sure
18:48 <phobosd> bubble i guess?
18:48 <chrism> lol
18:48 <phobosd> yeah idk, trying to read up on it
18:48 <chrism> you might youtube it
18:48 <chrism> so i got XBL to take my credit card via my 360
18:48 <chrism> and i got the netflix trial
18:48 <chrism> now launching netflix hardlocks my 360
18:48 <chrism> what in the fuck, seriously
18:48 <chrism> =\
18:49 <phobosd> an update came out recently
18:49 <phobosd> did it force you to apply it?
18:49 <phobosd> and you know, i fucking hate our messican neighbors sometimes
18:49 <phobosd> i come home, wanting to fucking mow
18:49 <phobosd> and some old ass grandpa looking motherfucker is out there reading the bible
18:49 <phobosd> i can't mow, becaus i don't want ot be a dick
18:49 <phobosd> but part of me wants to be
18:50 <phobosd> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rO66i9by8U
18:50 <phobosd> hrm guess that's whats up
18:50 <phobosd> ok now mit makes sense why my water is all lopsided
18:50 <phobosd> because the air is trying to get out, pushing the water out the other side
18:50 <phobosd> and i guess eventually it'll just go
18:50 <phobosd> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_mcTOtcxfs&feature=fvwrel
18:51 <@scrim> mattman - don't you have to like, press "yes ok pay $10" on your phone?
18:51 <@scrim> i can't imagine it wouldn't work that way
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18:51 <mattman> no idea
18:51 <mattman> but i mean, hackers will find a way, its what they do :)
18:51 <@scrim> true
18:52 <@scrim> this already exists in europe
18:52 <@scrim> you could see how it's going
18:56 <sampson> well balls
18:58 <sampson> i guess i finished the tutorial
18:58 <sampson> but i still don't know how to play eve
18:58 <sampson> :|
18:58 <sampson> BUT MY TAR LOOKS PRETTY FLY (for a white guy)
18:59 <sampson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhbZXvVkmg0
18:59 <sampson> this is me irl
19:00 <sampson> 1080p
19:01 <sampson> oh fuck i haven't read reddit today
19:02 <mattman> bro you playing eve bro?
19:02 <mattman> i wish to join
19:02 <sampson> i want to
19:02 <sampson> but i don't know how to play
19:02 <sampson> and i can't redo the tutorial and i don't want to roll a new char because i made a sweet tar
19:06 <kubi> totally trolling google irc
19:06 <kubi> saying the reason we can't make this project work is because the entire team is perpetually in a food coma
19:06 <kubi> and we need to get rid of free lunches
19:06 <sampson> how do i get on google irc
19:06 <kubi> vpn
19:06 <sampson> can you roll a login for me
19:07 <kubi> ya no problem let me just shit one out here
19:07 <sampson> sweet bro thanks
19:07 <sampson> epitome of lazy: my fan comes with a remote and it's literally right next to me
19:10 <somedude> ;
19:10 <somedude> ;/
19:20 <sampson> i forgot i downloaded the wizard
19:20 <sampson> AWWWWWW YEAH
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21:13 <phobosd> i too would like a google IRC account
21:26 <sampson> I WANT A FUCKING POWER GLOVE
21:26 <sampson> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZErvASwdlU
21:34 <sampson> so am i cool in eve or?? http://eveboard.com/pilot/sammargh
21:34 <sampson> idgi
21:34 <sampson> i mean my avatar is pretty sweet
21:34 <sampson> but past that ???
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22:47 <sampson> phobosd: dreddit app sent
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23:10 <mattman> so uh
23:10 <mattman> weird
23:10 <mattman> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/microsoft-close-to-buying-skype-for-7-billion-really/9400
23:14 <Randy> why would they want skype
23:15 <mattman> 1) for the brand, 2) for the tech
23:15 <mattman> they are trying to bring Lync to multiple clients but its taking longer than they expected. Skype is already everywhere
23:15 <Randy> MS Skype. sounds dreadful.
23:16 <mattman> Also google and facebook have been trying to buy Skype
23:16 <mattman> so maybe MS just wants to keep it away from them
23:16 <mattman> who knows
23:16 <mattman> thats a lot of money tho
23:16 <Randy> indeed
23:20 <sampson> custom portal 2 maps? YES
23:22 <Randy> i've played 5 hours of portal 2 sinc ei got it 9 days ago
23:22 <Randy> that's more gaming i've done than in 5 years
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